DBE Blogs: Kris VS Sunny
(Morta)
(Roxx)
“Dreams… they are the portal to our souls.” —Megan Mary
Fantasies and dreams are very similar concepts that we have all experienced. Sometimes reality sucks, and escaping to a magical place where you are interesting and happy from time to time is really great.
But get off your ass and wake up! You can't escape reality forever. Be mature and face your problems instead of crying.
Kris Dreemurr, the warrior of light and hero of the prophecy.
Sunny, the dreamer and creator of the world.
Who else wants to see these two stop fighting in their fantasies and resolve it like real mature people? Fighting to the death on DBE Blogs!
Before We Start…
Yes, this is exactly what you're thinking, it's just a short silly blog I wrote in three days, maybe it was just an excuse to replay Deltarune, who knows... So don't expect huge, detailed coverage of both games—that would be boring. In this specific blog, I'll focus solely on Sunny and Kris, both from the real world, fist to fist, with no crazy imaginary powers involved. Twitter aaah debate
For Sunny, I'll clearly be using OMORI, the OMORI art book, and the manga, along with supporting material such as interviews with Omocat. For Kris, I'll be using Deltarune, which currently consists of 4 chapters, so it's simple.
Of course, be warned of massive spoilers for OMORI and Deltarune, and there will be sensitive content and heavy topics such as depression and self-harm, so discretion is advised.
Thanks to my friend stars (fuck you stars!!) and VSBW for several calculations used here.
Background
Kris
https://youtu.be/q9RvMGINYHY?si=EkZzXvhYIT9RvEIB
Sunny
https://youtu.be/LuGJl4UVpxQ?si=3pXF7BMIX0U65Dsw
Experience & Skill
Kris
Kris lacks experience fighting in the real world, but even so, they is quite agile and skilled. They can jump long distances, use objects such as hockey sticks as weapons to strike their soul, and generally proves themself superior to their soul's abilities.
Sunny
Despite being quite young, Sunny is someone with some fighting experience, facing people armed with bats like Aubrey, a whole group of bullies, and wild animals. He is also quite intelligent in general, not only able to perform different jobs, but one of these jobs includes being a tutor, teaching subjects such as language and math.
Equipment
Kris
Knife
Although they only used it to cut the pie and open a dark fountain, Kris always carries a knife with them. I'm starting to notice a strange pattern…
Field hockey stick
Object that Kris took from Dess’ closet and used to strike and send the soul flying to prevent it from interfering
Chocolate bottle
Yummi. Kris can use this bottle as a weapon and throw it a great distance at tremendous speed.
Phone
Kris has a phone that they uses to constantly communicate with a certain mysterious person.
Sunny
Siiiiiiiiiiiiigh…
Yes, Omori has a lot of crap even in the real world. Credit to the Omori wiki for this.
Weapons
Name | Stats | Info |
HANDS | +2 ATK | These are all you have. |
STEAK KNIFE | +30 ATK | A shiny knife./Good for cutting meat. |
FLY SWATTER | +1 ATK | Welcome to the swat team. |
VIOLIN | +14 ATK | Cannot be destroyed. |
SHINY KNIFE | +5 ATK | A shiny new knife. You can see your reflection in the blade. |
KNIFE | +7 ATK | A pretty sharp knife. It's been used a few times. |
DULL KNIFE | +9 ATK | Worn and harder to use. You can no longer see your reflection. |
Charms
Name | Info |
RED HAND | Red, sticky, and shaped like a hand. |
GREEN HAND | Green, sticky, and shaped like a hand. |
PURPLE HAND | Purple, sticky, and shaped like a hand. |
PURPLE BALL | A bouncy purple ball |
PINK BALL | A bouncy pink ball. |
GREEN BALL | A bouncy green ball. |
GREEN SLINKY | A green springy toy. |
BLUE SLINKY | A blue springy toy. |
YELLOW SLINKY | A yellow springy toy. |
YELLOW KEYCHAIN | A portable yellow cat. |
GREEN KEYCHAIN | A portable green cat. |
PINK KEYCHAIN | A portable pink cat. |
CHIMERA KEYCHAIN | A portable... cat? |
PET ROCK | The most loyal rock |
FLOWER CLIP (REAL WORLD) | A flower on a clip. |
RED HEADBAND | A headband that is red |
ORANGE HEADBAND | A headband that is orange. |
COOL GLASSES (REAL WORLD) | Even cooler when worn indoors. |
SEASHELL NECKLACE | To help you remember your friends...DEF +5, HEART +25, JUICE +25 |
GOLD WATCH (REAL WORLD) | A shiny item for your wrist. |
"GOLD" WATCH | Is this even real gold? |
FEDORA | Goes on your head, but it shouldn't. |
"YOU ROCK" CAP | A prestigious cap bestowed upon the PET ROCKchampion. 100% cotton. |
PINWHEEL | Prettier in the wind. |
PAINT BRUSH | Feels cool to carry around. |
COOL BOTTLECAP | Rare and vintage. Mildly shiny. |
KEL'S PET ROCK | KEL's best friend. |
Snacks
Name | Heart and Juice | Description |
DONUT | 2 Heart | Circular bread with a hole in it."The DONUT had a soft fluffy texture and was very sugary.” |
CANDY | 1 Heart | A child's favorite food. Sweet!"The CANDY had a chewy texture and fruity flavor.” |
SALAD | 3 Heart | Grass in a bowl."The SALAD tasted like grass.” |
BREAD | 3 Heart | A slice of bread."The BREAD was fragrant and crispy... and kind of addicting?” |
CHOCOLATE | 2 Heart | Chocolate!? Yes. Chocolate."The CHOCOLATE was a bit creamy and a bit nutty. It melted in your mouth.” |
PIZZA SLICE | 5 Heart | 1/8th of a WHOLE PIZZA."The PIZZA SLICE was hot and covered in cheese. You wish you had more…” |
HERO SANDWICH | 5 Heart | HERO's favorite food."The HERO SANDWICH boasted the perfect mix of meats and veggies. Wow…” |
CARAMEL APPLE | 5 Heart | Apples dipped in caramel. Half healthy."The CARAMEL APPLE was sticky and sweet, yet crunchy and sour.” |
WHOLE PIZZA | 10 Heart | 8/8ths of a WHOLE PIZZA."The WHOLE PIZZA was hot and covered in cheese. This was the perfect amount.” |
PIE | 10 Heart | Crust with stuffing."The PIE's buttery crust perfectly complemented the fruity filling.” |
SLICE OF CAKE | 15 Heart | A slice of celebratory frosted bread."The SLICE OF CAKE was small and humble, but rich.” |
HAMBURGER | 4 Heart | A CHEESEBURGER without the cheese."The HAMBURGER's ingredients blended together flawlessly. All it was missing was the cheese.” |
TASTY SODA | 3 Juice | Tasty soda for thirsty people."The TASTY SODA had a fizzy and nostalgic taste that flooded your mouth.” |
ORANGE JOE | 3 Juice | KEL's favorite soda. Orange-flavored coffee."The ORANGE JUICE and COFFEE combination created a questionable flavor.” |
APPLE JUICE | 5 Juice | Apparently better than ORANGE JUICE."The APPLE JUICE was truly made from the ripest of apples.” |
ORANGE JUICE | 5 Juice | Apparently better than APPLE JUICE."The ORANGE JUICE was truly made from the freshest of oranges.” |
COFFEE | 1 Juice | Bitter bean juice."The COFFEE was hot and bitter, as expected. You don't know why people drink this.” |
Toys
Dude this is not a toy
Name | Effect |
BANDAGE | For self-defense only.Deals 500 damage. |
FIRST AID KIT | From OTHERMART PHARMACY.Heals 150 HEART. |
PEPPER SPRAY | For self-defense only.Deals 500 damage. |
Photo Album
The album is one of the most important objects in Omori, not in terms of gameplay, but in terms of the story. This album contains all the photos and memories of the group when they were younger, and more importantly, of Mari when she was with them.
Abilities
Kris
Soul Manipulation
Kris has different ways of affecting their soul, such as ripping it out of their own chest, and then damaging it by throwing objects at it or hitting it. This will be explained in more detail before the verdict.
Creation and Will Power
The power to create dark fountains comes from the will and determination that all Lightners possess. By concentrating their will, Lightners can create dark fountain out of thin air, which function as a gateway to the dark world and bring inanimate objects in the dark world to life. Kris was able to create a dark fountain in their home by burying a knife in the floor, creating a new world with their determination. Queen also states that Lightners use their will, determination, and strength to create dark fountains.
Save Points
Save points are specific locations in different sections of Deltarune where Kris's game is saved and where Kris returns after dying. These are real; the game mentions that it is a light that only Kris can see, and when Kris is enveloped in the light, their HP is completely restored. Why does this matter here? Because there is a save point in the Light World that Kris can see... for some reason.
4th Wall Awareness
Kris is fully aware that they exist in a game, rips out his soul to avoid the player's control, and stares menacingly at the screen.
Pain Tolerance
Kris has a high tolerance for pain; they can rip their own soul out of their chest and walk, although they walk in a much more limited way, this could be the effect of not having a soul and not the pain, since once they have their soul back, they will walk as before.
Resistances
- Soul Manipulation: Can survive without their soul and can rip it out of their chest
Sunny
Skills
Skills are the abilities that each character in Omori has. Sunny has an interesting arsenal of skills.
Skill | Visual | Description |
ATTACK | Sunny's basic attack, nothing a good punch can't fix. Attack x 2 - Foe's defense. | |
GUARD | Sunny acts before the enemy and blocks 50% of the damage received that turn by covering himself with his arms. | |
CALM DOWN | When calming down, Sunny removes inflicted emotions and heals part of his heart. | |
FOCUS | By focusing, Sunny multiplies the damage inflicted by his next attack by 2.5 times. | |
PERSIST | By persisting, Sunny's heart cannot reach 0 during a turn. |
Emotions
Emotions can be obtained simply by changing your mood (duh), or they can be induced in enemies or yourself using different methods. These bring about changes in combat, such as...
A Neutral character has no unique effect on gameplay, but always starts in this state. | |
Sad characters will have 120% higher defense, but 80% lower speed, and 30% of damage will also be transferred to juice instead of the heart. | |
An Angry character will have much higher damage, 130% stronger than normal, but 50% lower defense. | |
Although it cannot be induced by Sunny or regular enemies, Something can cause Afraid, an emotion that frightens the enemy and prevents them from using any abilities except guard, and the damage received increases 1.5x times. | |
An extreme state of Afraid, Stressed Out is induced by Something. While under this effect, it is impossible to calm down, attack increases by 120%, but defense is reduced by 90%. |
Yes this dude cannot be happy…
Stats
No, they're not stats in the sense of VS, they're the different gameplay statistics in Omori that affect combat in different ways.
- HEART: The heart represents the HP of Sunny and his allies and enemies. It can be restored with healing items and skills, and if it reaches 0, Sunny will fall in battle and lose.
- JUICE: Juice is the magic points of Sunny and other characters in the game. They determine the number of skills that can be used, as using skills will gradually deplete it.
- ATTACK: It represents the amount of damage Sunny will do. Having a higher attack number increases the chances of a critical hit.
- DEFENSE: As the name suggests, defense reduces the damage received from enemies by a variable percentage that can be increased.
- SPEED: Speed is the agility value. It determines which characters will attack first, dodge, and the possibility of fleeing battles.
- LUCK:Luck increases Sunny's critical hit rate. Each point of luck adds a 1% chance of inflicting greater damage on the enemy.
- HIT RATE: It determines the possibility of damaging an enemy without missing. If it is 100%, the hit will always land.
Creation
It is well known that part of the plot takes place in Sunny's mind, a world called Headspace and created by Sunny to hide the truth and live in a false reality where he is happy every time he goes to sleep. The thing is that Headspace is not just about a dream, it is literally an existing place that can have effects on reality, one example is Something, a creation of Basil's mind, which others can see, like Sunny, who is fully aware of Something, and Something is even able to physically drag Sunny into the darkness to force him to fight Basil. Omocat also mentions that Basil's problems manifest in the real world, confirming that creations of the mind have power over reality.
Travel to Headspace
At certain extreme moments, where Sunny's emotions run wild or he is not fully conscious, Sunny can access Headspace momentarily. It is not a literal trip, rather, Sunny takes on the role of Omori and enters Headspace without being fully asleep, although this leaves him vulnerable in the real world for a few moments.
Extreme pain tolerance
Sunny not only has great endurance in a fight, but he also has an extreme pain tolerance. He can withstand Aubrey's spiked bat attacks and keep fighting as if nothing happened, resist several wasp stings without being affected by the poison, and even remain conscious and in combat for a while after Basil stabbed him in the eye with garden shears. The healing items also help Sunny last longer than usual after huge damage.
Resistances
- Limited Poison: Not affected after being stung by wasps
- Fear & Empathic Manipulation: By calming down, he can remove induced emotions. “Happy” cannot be induced in Sunny... which could just be him having a sad life and not actual resistance
Support
Kris
The Soul
All living beings have a soul, with the human soul being the most powerful, but this is not an advantage. Kris's soul is not their own, it is ours. By having our soul inside them, we have control over Kris's actions, giving us the freedom to force them to do whatever we want. Of course, this is not entirely positive, as we can make decisions that Kris does not like, leading them to constantly remove his soul to regain control of their own will, but we can re-enter Kris against his will. The soul is also capable of reading the thoughts of others through text boxes and making Kris aware of them.
Sunny
Something
The manifestation of Sunny and Basil's trauma, Something is a shadow entity originating in Basil's mind, existing as an idea that manifests itself in the real world. Something constantly follows Sunny and Basil, is capable of physically moving things, as seen in the fight against Basil, and is an existing being. Although not entirely beneficial, its presence causes others to become Afraid and can help prevent enemies from escaping, as it does with Sunny when he tries to flee from Basil. Something can also turn a room completely dark, drag others with its arms, and be in two places at once.
Feats
Kris
Overall
- They are one of the heroes of the prophecy and joined the Delta Warriors
- Became friends with Susie, an antisocial and aggressive person
- Created a dark fountain to create the world of Chapter 2
- Yes... they don’t have much else outside of the Dark World
Strength
- Kicks a metal trash can until it is dented (as seen above)
- Easily carries Susie
- Throws things incredibly fast at the soul
- Throws a chocolate bottle at the soul at supersonic speeds (639.85 Kilojoules)
- Generates this KE when jumping quickly (3200 Joules)
- Hits the soul and pushes it with a hockey stick
- Constantly shows that they are above the soul
- Stabs the floor leaving a crack (1442281.70 Joules)
- This also creates a dark fountain
Speed
- Susie says Kris runs “pretty fast”
- Can change clothes incredibly fast
- Jump from the window to the bathroom quickly (10.20 m/s)
- Able to swing their knife in an instant (33.05 m/s)
- Threw a bottle of chocolate to their soul incredibly fast (Mach 1.6)
- Should be comparable to Susie, who ran from school to Kris's house to pick up Tenna and returned in a few seconds (107.48 m/s)
Durability
- Resists reaching into their own chest to rip out their soul
- Is slammed against lockers by Susie
Sunny
Overall
- He confronted Aubrey and her group, saving Basil on more than one occasion
- He faced various enemies and problems, including aggressive animals
- He persevered despite everything, leaving his isolated life behind
- He finally had the courage to tell the truth and leave behind the weight of the trauma he had carried for years
Strength
- Hurt Aubrey with his blows
- Fights- is that fucking Jason Voorhes
- Severely damages Aubrey with the knife
- Fights Aubrey and her gang
- By focusing, Sunny multiplies the damage inflicted by his next attack by 2.5 times (0.0375 Tons of TNT)
Speed
- Can run at great speeds (14.033 m/s)
- Comparable to Aubrey, who runs very fast (19.410 m/s)
- Kills wasps with one blow before they can react
Durability
- Resists wasp stings
- Is pushed by Aubrey against a bench
- He and Kel withstand several blows from Aubrey's spiked baseball bat
- Comparable to Basil, who resists being hit by Aubrey's bat
Weaknesses
Kris
Kris is very young, lacking not only experience in many things, but also experience in fighting or defending themself. They remain completely still when Susie subdues them and threatens to rip their face off, and they have never truly confronted anyone. The soul is also a big problem, as it can force Kris to do things they don't want to do, and if they decide to get rid of the soul, their mobility is significantly reduced.
Sunny
Sunny is also, surprisingly, a very young boy with little experience in many things in general, and above all, he is someone who is incredibly emotionally unstable due to the extreme situations he has experienced and his trauma, which led him to isolate himself from the rest of the world for years. Sunny can act without thinking in certain extreme moments, such as when Aubrey pushed Basil into the lake and Sunny jumped in to save him despite not knowing how to swim.
Before The Verdict
What is real? Fictional scaling???
There are several things to clarify with this specific debate. Both have arguments to escalate to their fictional versions, and some have quite strong points, such as Kris creating a dark source, which requires their strength and determination according to Queen, or Sunny facing Something, who faces Omori in Headspace and at the same time manifests itself in the real world.
And there is a simple argument:
Arguing in favor of that just makes the debate boring. This isn't an in-depth analysis of OMORI and Deltarune. The fun of the debate is seeing both of them without fictional elements, fighting for real. I could argue against some of these things, but it's not necessary in this case. If you think either of them should have higher stats, that's fine, but that's not the point of this blog.
Soul Manipulation
Although it may seem obvious that Kris is capable of affecting the soul, there are several problems with saying that they could do something to Sunny's soul. First, the soul in Deltarune is clearly tangible and physical, unlike the traditional soul. Kris throws it against a cage and it crashes hard, it can't go through closed doors and has to go through the ventilation, it crashes into the trash can, it crashes into gift boxes, and it's even damaged when traditional objects are thrown at it, like bottles, which clearly aren't destroying the soul for real.
Kris also couldn't rip out Sunny's soul or anything like that, because even if they could touch it, Kris requires strength to rip their own soul out of their chest, and they’re clearly not strong enough to hurt Sunny that way, but more on that later.
BUILDING LEVEL AUBREY
It was a dream. Don’t worry about it.
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Verdict
Stats
The stats are probably the most important factor in a fight like this, so let's be clear.
Kris has many more demonstrations of strength, like kicking a metal trash can until it dents, generating KE by jumping (3200 Joules), stabbing the floor leaving a crack (1,442,281.70 Joules), hitting their own soul and sending it flying, opening their chest with their hand, and more impressively, throwing objects at supersonic speeds (something they did twice), delivering up to 639.85 Kilojoules, their best feat by far, and quite consistent with all mentioned above and considering that Susie can run through the city carrying Tenna and go from school to Kris's house and back.
Although fewer in number, Sunny's feats are more remarkable, like seriously injuring Aubrey with a knife, being able to withstand hits from Aubrey's bat as well as Kel and Basil, and more impressively, fighting Aubrey's entire group at once. That includes Charlie... sorry, Charlene, who can shake trees with one hit, being 63,355,598.8044752 Joules, or 0.015 Tons of TNT.
When comparing them, we realize this is not very close. The maximum Kris reaches is 639.85 Kilojoules, and compared to Charlene, who reaches 63,355.5988 Kilojoules, there is a difference of 99.0163300774x... yes, Sunny is almost 100 times stronger and more durable than Kris. On top of this, we can add Sunny's emotions and equipment, like armor that increases his defense, Block that reduces 50% of the damage Sunny receives, or FOCUS, which increases the damage Sunny deals by 2.5x, or that Sunny getting angry would increase his strength by 130%, increasing even more the stats gap between them. Sunny needs to touch Kris only once to kill or knock him out, and Kris is unable to cause real damage to Sunny due to the almost 100x gap, which can increase even more.
Emotions play an important role here besides what was mentioned, since there are cases where Sunny is not benefited, like being affected by Afraid, which increases the damage received by 1.5x, although Kris still wouldn't be able to hurt him, and Kris’s defense would also be lowered along with Sunny’s, making Sunny still need only one hit to win. If Sunny gets Stressed Out, his defense would drop by 90%, meaning 57,019.93892 Joules, and both their attacks would increase by 120%, leaving Kris at 1,407.67 Kilojoules. This gap is 40.5066094468x... even reducing Sunny’s defense to the max and increasing Kris’s attack, the gap is 40x in favor of Sunny, and since Kris's defense would reduce even more, this does not improve things.
Speed is where things change, since Sunny has few demonstrations of it, one is running very fast reaching 14.033 m/s, and the other is Aubrey moving at 19.410 m/s, both impressive, but Kris has more frequent demonstrations, like wielding a knife at 33.05 m/s, being comparable to Susie, who ran from school to Kris’s house in a few seconds to bring Tenna (107.48 m/s), or more impressively, throwing objects at Mach 1.6, although this only applies to projectile attack speed since the soul cannot react at that speed despite being able to surprise Kris quickly. Kris has travel and reaction speed 5.5373518805x times faster than Sunny’s, an advantage not so big but considerable to keep distance if necessary. Overall, Sunny takes strength by a huge margin and Kris takes speed by a notable margin. Now let's move on to…
Arsenal & Abilities
Well, I think the difference in arsenal between them is obvious. Sunny has many, many weapons and items that help in the fight: he has many healing items (not that he needs them when Kris can’t hurt him), armors that increase his defense even more, and weapons that deal more damage, though everything is a bit irrelevant when Kris can’t damage or survive a hit from Sunny. To try to avoid this, Kris can use ranged options, which are better, like the hockey stick or throwing common objects at supersonic speeds, keeping distance between him and Sunny. Speaking of this…
“Sunny can’t kill Kris at all”
Potentially, you could argue that Kris in the Light World is still immortal; the player is still with them so they can be brought back and Kris can see the save points, so assuming the fight takes place near the only save point in the Light World, things could get complicated. Sunny couldn’t normally kill Kris, but there’s an easy solution to a difficult problem... pepper spray. This would leave Kris completely unable to see (and no, Kris having their eyes covered wouldn’t change anything; Sunny’s pepper spray affected Kim despite her wearing glasses), with unbearable burning pain and unable to recover. This effect can last from 45 minutes to even hours depending on the type of pepper spray. Sunny used it to defend from Aubrey’s group’s attack, and there’s no doubt he would use it if facing someone with a knife, giving him enough time to simply leave while Kris is incapacitated by the pain.
Other possible arguments are that, facing someone 100 times stronger who kills them with one hit again and again and can leave them agonizing in pain for hours, Kris would eventually give up and the player would choose not to try anymore, dying or simply retreating. Sunny could also, you know, simply knock them out instead of killing, which would prevent Kris from returning to their save point, and this has happened in Deltarune before, so it’s an option. If for some reason Kris removed their soul, they would potentially die too, without the player inside them, and it’s likely Kris would resort to this option if they don’t want to hurt Sunny and the player tries to force them.
Kris’s soul could also read their thoughts... but it’s useless to know they’re about to get beaten to death, more or less like Neku Sakuraba.
“Kris could rip Sunny’s soul out of his body”
Even if you ignore the problems already mentioned, Kris couldn’t do this even if they wanted to, since it takes effort to put their hand in their chest and pull out the soul, and to do that, they’d have to go through Sunny’s chest, which not only would kill Kris even without affecting Sunny’s soul, but Kris couldn’t really hurt Sunny due to the stats gap, and Sunny only needs one hit to get Kris off while Kris tries to do this.
Now, a special part of Sunny’s support is Something, a real entity that can affect this fight if it appears. Something can use Afraid passively, making Kris defenseless and much weaker in durability, besides being too scared to do anything. Clearly, this wouldn’t happen just because of Something’s ability, Kris probably wouldn’t understand what’s going on, and unlike Sunny, Kris has no method to calm down and remove the effect, remaining much more vulnerable here than they already were. The stat difference with these effects was already discussed earlier, and even taking into account that Sunny’s durability would reduce by 90% and Kris’s strength would increase by 120%, the stats gap is still ridiculously large for Kris to deal real damage to Sunny.
Tertiary Factors
This is possibly the area where Sunny excels the most: he has experience fighting. He has faced animals, armed people like Aubrey, and even a whole group of bullies, and he came out victorious, while Kris has never really fought anyone, they have only hit their soul and so on, but he is even defenseless against bullies like Susie and does nothing when she is about to rip their face off, and keep in mind that Susie is much weaker than Sunny. Kris is also nothing that Sunny hasn't faced. Sunny has fought people with ranged options, people with sticks used for fighting, and even cognitive and supernatural entities.
Conclusion
“Don’t forget… I’m with you in the dark”
Advantages
- Faster in both travel and reaction
- Better abilities in general
- Better options for attacking at distance
- More athletic and with better mobility
- Possibly more aggressive and would seek to end the fight sooner
- Potentially incapable of dying by conventional methods…
- Won the Rap Battle
Ties
- Batter victim
Disadvantages
- Muck weaker
- No, they can’t affect Sunny’s soul
- Lacks real fighting experience
- Pepper spray can prevent them from seeing and leaves unbearable pain
- They have nothing to do against Something and basically fighting 1 vs 2
- …But can still be incapacitated by pepper spray or can surrender
“I have to tell you something”
Advantages
- Much stronger overall
- Increased pain tolerance and healing items allow him to withstand much longer in combat
- Pepper Gas is a great option to leave Kris without vision and in great pain for a long time
- Something is an incredibly useful support
- Much better equipment for combat
- He actually has experience fighting
- He would beat Ouriel (Room) if the two fought in the real world
Ties
- Batter victim
Disadvantages
- Unable to kill Kris normally
- Generally slower in both travel and reaction
- Worst life, like, no debate LOL
As much as I would like to say that this was a close match... it wasn't. Sunny's abysmal strength difference is too great to ignore. Even if Kris is faster in reaction, combat, and movement, they will never be able to really damage Sunny, and even if they could, Sunny's high pain tolerance and healing items would make it difficult for Kris to do anything.
Withstanding a blow from Sunny would be impossible for Kris, as the difference in stats is more than 100x, and Sunny can increase his strength and reduce Kris's durability. Even with its supports, Soul is more harmful to Kris than Something is to Sunny, as Sunny can ignore Afraid by calming down while Kris cannot. Even if Kris could revive, pepper spray is a perfect method to win without killing Kris, or just knocking them out long enough to win.
The fight could be close at first thanks to Kris's possible resurrection, but eventually, Sunny winning is the most viable and solid outcome, whether killing Kris or not.
The Winner is Sunny.
Team Kris (0): ♥️
Team Sunny (1): Morta
Final Words
“Morta, where is Homer VS Peter?”
Thanks for reading.
Motherfucker.
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